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Dave Gaubatz is the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He is the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of the new book, Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America. He can be contacted at davegaubatz@gmail.com.
Gaubatz: Yes. The murders by Malik Nadal Hasan at Ft. Hood, TX are not a ‘lone wolf incident’ as being described by most media organizations. Hasan had been taught the ideology that is being advocated by hundreds of Islamic scholars and Imams in the U.S. We as a country can continue to deny there are numerous Islamic leaders and their supporting organizations such as CAIR, ISNA, MSA, and MANA, to name a few, who advocate killing innocent men, women, and children whom they allege ‘oppress Islam.’ How many more incidents similar to this that have been occurring in America does it take before even the media wants to report the truth? Politicians will always say or do whatever will get them their next vote in an upcoming election, but there was a time in our history when journalists reported everything and were not concerned with ‘political correctness.’ This type of journalistic reporting is dangerous and in itself is a national security issue. Journalists and their affiliated news organization are so afraid of being labeled or sued by organizations such as CAIR that they will withhold the truth from the American people. In part, the murders of innocent people are partly the fault of such journalists and politicians who support organizations such as CAIR.
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Public date: November 6th, 2009
November 6, 2009
Absolute nonsense. The CAIR put out a statement following the shooting immediately denouncing it,because it would immediately lead to accusations like this (http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/muslim-group-releases-statement-on-fort-hood-shootings.php).
Gaubatz is nothing more than a conspiracy theorist-polemicist, who questioned Obama’s identity and the allegiance of two members of Congress solely based on their religion. There is no evidence this man committed this horrific act on orders from anyone, and its BS journalism like this that embarrasses us as Christians. Do men who shoot abortion doctors take orders from their church to do so? It would be insulting as Christians to be accused of condoning the paradoxical act of killing someone while claiming to be prolife.
This is a shameful display of baseless accusations, and undermines this websites credibility as a legitimate news source.
November 6, 2009
There is a huge body of information showing CAIR’s sympathies with Islamic extremism. You should judge them on more than one isolated statement, a statement that they could hardly not put out. And take a look at the other items we’ve posted on this site on this case before jumping to the conclusion that Islam has no relevant bearing on this killer’s actions.
November 6, 2009
But to make the accusation before ANY information about his motives is out is awful journalism. As far as I can tell, the only things we know is that he was about to be shipped out again, and that he was a Muslim. But the only thing the conservative media is focusing on is that he was a Muslim. ‘Before I jump to conclusions’? This is the ultimate jump to a conclusion. Conspiracy theories about the Bible and our motives in politics undermine what we fight for as Christians, and using the tactics we try so hard to fight against means we haven’t learned anything.
November 6, 2009
So far NoApologies hasn’t reported anything unique; they’ve simply posted selected items on the story. All news services self-select based on various criteria because nobody can present everything. And NoApologies typically does not view the news through the same worldview grid as CNN or CBC.
November 6, 2009
Steve, your facts are incorrect. Soldiers who were at the scene when he was shooting are telling media that he was shouting Allahu Akbar and the Police and military are confirming this.
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The facts are that the Muslim Faith is a violent one and will continue to cause tragedy like that of yesterday.
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Don’t believe me, then research Dr. Mark Gabriel who was born and raised in Egypt as a Muslim and had the entire Quran memorized by the time he was 12. He graduated from Al-Azhar University in Cairo and then became a professor of Islamic history at that university there. He was also an Imam mosque in Giza, where the pyramids are located. He is converted to Christianity after realizing realizing and himslef witnessing the inconsistencies and violence within Islam.
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The Quran was birthed in violence. It’s leader was a violent murderer who encouraged other to murder. This is the unfortunate fact about the Quran from cover to cover. Those that clalm different and either in ignorant, in denial or are part of a westernized moderate, although not athentic, version of the Muslim Faith.
November 6, 2009
Pardon the typos and grammatical errors. Where’s the Edit button? lol
November 6, 2009
It is foolish to try to compare Christianity to Islam. The problem in “Christianity” is that there does not appear to be any standard definition for it. Many people who deny the authority of God’s Word claim to be Christians. True Bible believing Christians have nothing in common with Islam.
Islam is a religion based in violence. Its means of advancement is through violence. Just look around you. The world is truly being foolish is thinking that there is such a thing as working together with Muslims. We would be wise to not allow any of them into our army, police force, firefighters, etc. As I said this would be the wise thing to do. There is a video out of Geert Wilder (not sure of the spelling) warning the U.S. of the danger of Islam. Europe has not taken heed to this danger and is being overrun by this false religion. Unless we begin to acknowledge God’s Word as our authority, we too will be overrun by either this false religion or another, namely humanism.
I do not hate Muslims, but I do understand that Islam is an evil religious system and wherever it gains control, Christianity is muzzled. It is time to wake up.
Romans 13:11 “And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.”
The truth sets you free, not man’s opinions. False religion does not need to be sheltered. It needs to be exposed and those involved need to be encouraged and warned of the need to repent and be saved.
Respectfully submitted,
Pastor Walt Bartel
November 6, 2009
Yes, he shouted ‘God is Great’, but he was also set to go to Afghanistan the next day. Why is that not the motivation? He had become a vocal opponent of the war, thats no secret.
Its very obvious that I won’t be able to convince anyone that not all Muslims are ‘evil’ and that misinformation and extremists skew the religion the way it happens to us. Of course I believe Islam is a false religion, but I am not defending the religion’s doctrines. I am defending people who want peace because that’s the best way to profess our teachings. Excluding people based on religion for jobs is nonsense, because the same thing can turn around and happen to us (BTW, Fox News thought of the same thing (http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=3850239), but I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t like Fox News either)
I guess we should just ignore what CAIR says and what these imams (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8740980)(http://blog.odonoughue.org/2008/11/6000-muslim-clerics-issued-fatwa-against-terrorism.html) have to say because we believe Islam is a false religion. But subscribing to the Mark Steyn-Geert Wilders school of religious relations will get us absolutely nowhere. In fact, it is exactly what islamofascists want us to do- widen the gulf between religions in order to a start a ‘clash of civilizations.’ Do we believe Jews, who deny that Christ was God and that he was a false Messiah, are evil too? Because they seem fairly liberal with the white phosphorous. Why shelter them?
Its come to a point where we want to simply win the culture war as opposed to converting and leading via Christ’s teachings. Geerts Wilder isn’t a Christian; he doesn’t believe they are wrong based on his ‘Christian beliefs’. He’s an atheist. Why do we believe him and not trust Muslims who want peace? As Christians, we can fall for Wilder’s teachings and it can devolve into hate for us.
November 6, 2009
Different contexts and different behaviours require different responses. Broadly speaking, Steve’s perspective sounds like it reflects the kind of messaging and communication and relationships one can, and as Christians should, have with Muslims in the course of everyday life. But the Bible does not teach that statecraft should look the same as interpersonal relationships. Most obviously, the state has the Biblical authority to punish criminal actions, including with the death penalty, but the Bible speaks against individuals taking justice into their own hands in that respect. When the actions of Muslims, in the name of their religion, are criminal in nature and have broad implications in legal, justice and/or public policy arenas, often very different responses and assumptions are required than those that would be appropriate within interpersonal relationships. One of the most significant distinctions between Christianity and Humanism that I’ve only recently come to identify is Humanism’s far too optimistic a view of human nature. In interpersonal relations, Christians should give people the benefit of the doubt, but in public policy, it is socialism/humanism that is very optimistic of people and human nature and therefore works against accountability measures and division of authority, etc. Whereas Christian-based political theory is Biblically realistic about human nature and implements many accountability mechanisms in civil government to reduce the likelihood of people getting away with expected corruption. Likewise in a case like this, responsible officials assume the worst, which includes Islamo-fascist terrorism. If they don’t assume the worst, they miss things. That’s one of the most obvious lessons of 9/11 and other tragedies of all sorts. That is Christian PoliSci 101.
November 7, 2009
Tim, are you correct regarding Humanism being optimistic of human nature? If they are, then they do a complete about face when ever some evil doer can be even remotely connected to Christianity. The hypocrisy of the media is shown in that if this nut case had of been a church goer they would have labeled him a “fundamental Christian.” How often have we read where some pervert child molester, who went to church once, was called a fundamental Christian? It is sickening to have bible believing Christians accept this kind nonsense as truth (referring to the fundamental Christian stuff). The liberal media refuse to acknowledge this murderer was Muslim even though there is more than enough evidence. He was even disciplined once for trying to convert persons, he was supposed to be counseling, to Islam.
Steve, before accepting what CAIR says, at face value, you may wish to do a little research. Like for instance, are you aware that Islam permits lying. It’s called “Al-taqiyya” and means “concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury.” Google the term and you will be surprised. Knowing this, it is predictable that CAIR would release a statement of surprise at this murderer’s actions. Where is the surprise in that? There is no such teaching within Christianity. God is Truth and we are made in His image so therefore Christians hold to Truth. Islam obviously does not hold to truth. You are correct however that we are to befriend Muslims because how else will they hear the truth of the gospel? That does not mean we should allow the lying humanistic media to continue perpetrating the lies which empower radical Islam to continue to operate in the US and Canada. The persons on this site, (the way I see it,) are simply trying to shed light on a very dangerous situation and that is the spread of radical Islam and worse yet the radicals are spreading their poison with the help of the liberal minded media who refuse to report the truth. That is what is being said here, an attempt to report the truthfulness of this horrible situation.
November 7, 2009
Ian, humanists are as inconsistent as anyone and probably more so, but they deny that men are sinful. Our problems stem from our environment, not our natures. Humanism is of course the idea that man is god, and a worldview or religion is only sustainable if one’s god is at least generally good because noone goes out of their way to worship an evil god. One way this works itself out in social order is the idea that we are not likely to use power irresponsibly, so they never put enough accountability measures in place to guard against possible corruption and abuse of power and these socialists all advocate centralization of power instead of decentralization (e.g., Canada’s New Democrats opposing a Senate. The Senate may be disfunctional – so fix it. We need more, not less, branches of government to provide hopeful accountability. Humanism is dying because of radical inconsistency though. Many humanists are die-hard environmentalist and environmentalism sees man as profoundly evil – natural and nature untouched by man is wonderful and pristine while man taints everything he touches. It’s laughable that humanists are environmentalists. It is dramatic evidence of how irrational they are and how fundamentally stupid the dying religion of humanism is.
November 7, 2009
A few years ago ECP featured a speaker who was a former Imam at its conference. This man was very clear in stating that there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. He stated that Islam is a religion of violence and its goal is world dominance.
Again, I find it amazing that we will not accept the truth, but want to believe that all religions must have some good in them. Of course we need to befriend Muslims just as any others. However, befriending certainly does not mean accepting their false religion as valid. It would be good to examine the Word of God on this matter. Jesus, the eternal Son of God never accepted the false religion of the Pharisees. He never looked for the good in their religion. He called them “whited sepulchres.” He called them the “blind leading the blind.” Yet, no one can suggest for a minute that Jesus did not love the Pharisees as much as He loved anyone else.
A few centuries back the city of Troy was taken because the people accepted a lie, a hollowed out wooden horse, as an innocent thing. They were warned, but ignored the warning. The result was disaster. Islam is not just a false religion. It is a religion steeped in violence. Muslims are not seeking peace. They cannot even live at peace with themselves.
As to the Jews rejection of the true God, this cannot be compared to Islam. They Jews are not out to destroy the world and build it in their image. They are simply seeking to live at peace in their own land. In the Bible we find that God chose the Jews as a people through whom He would be glorified. Sadly, they have rejected Him and His Son Jesus Christ. They are still God’s chosen people and they will one day know Him as their God. Islam was never and is not today a religion accepted by God. There is nothing good to be preserved or promoted in their religion. True Christians do not take up swords and guns to destroy Islam or any other false religion. However, they do take the Word of God and boldly and without apology exalt Christ, thus exposing the error of Islam and other false religions, reminding its adherents to repent and be saved.
Pastor Walt Bartel
November 7, 2009
In no way am I saying anyone has to accept it as a true religion, or that all religions are true. But the great thing of living in Canada is religious freedom, the fact that we can practice our religion without discrimination based on what we believe. If you take that away for one religion, you risk every religion’s freedom, just like barring free speech threatens everyone. I remember hearing, of the pulpit I might add, a sermon on Article 36 of the BC, from which the following words were deleted: “all idolatry and false worship may be removed and prevented, the kingdom of the antichrist may be destroyed.” This was done, so sayeth my pastor, because the government may not impose its conscience on all its constituents. The government is their to protect all humans under the law, if they choose to follow the law.
There are many secular thinkers who say that Christianity is a religion steeped in violence also. And if you take Biblical verses totally out of context, it would appear that way (I hate to do this, but its part of the point):
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“…and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show no mercy.” (Deuteronomy 7:2).
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“The LORD also gave that city and its king into Israel’s hand. The city and everyone in it Joshua put to the sword. He left no survivors there. And he did to its king as he had done to the king of Jericho.” (Joshua 10:30)
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“If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father and mother, and his blood will be on his own head.” (Leviticus 20:11).
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That last one I’ve heard used in two instances, both personally, where someone has questioned the merits of the Old Testament ‘version’ of God, and the Old Testament itself. It continues to happen all the time.
We can defend ourselves and say ‘well, that’s out of context’ because that’s true, and we go on to explain why it is. But we criticize religions the exact same way, using anecdotal evidence and oversimplified stereotypes. We can do the same with, oh, lets say the Northern Ireland problem. Two spheres of Christianity engaging in violence because of doctrinal differences. Christianity is at the root of the conflict, but not every Christian is taken to task on it. We can just step back and remove ourselves from any sort of relationship: ‘They’re not true Christians,’ or ‘the conflict has more to do with other issues.’ It always comes down to calling out people who call themselves Christians, unless they say what we want to hear. But when Islam, which is divided in two conflicting spheres, is on the table, we say its all violent. Its interpretation.
If we’re going to continue talking about the ‘takeover’, we’ve got to look at those stubborn things: facts. In reality, Muslims constitute 3-4% of the European Union’s population, if you look at the real statistics put out by people who know statistics best, the government. Turning this population into the 40-50% many project would be impossible, even with open-border policies. Believe it or not, Muslim fertility rates fall when they arrive into secular Europe. Native populations in Europe don’t even start to drop until 2025. To enact this Trojan horse scenario in a liberal democracy, Muslims would need to become the majority population. Somehow, Muslims have to hold the consistent birthrate through 25-50 years, these generations have to stay very religious as opposed to giving themselves over to secular delights, all have to come together to form a cohesive unit of Islamists, and European nations cannot enact any natalist policies. Many, many immigrants come to places like Europe, the United States and Canada for the religious freedom, not to oppress or be oppressed. If this website exposes the truthfulness of the scenario, they’re looking at a fairly false truth.
And yes, I have read ‘America Alone.’ When you quote Muammar al-Gaddafi as a demographer, you are destined to have serious short-comings in your data.
Exposing error in Islamic doctrine is one thing, but seeing them as steeped in violence hurts how Christians and non-Christians alike deal with Muslims in their day to day life. It further creates an ‘us v. them’ mentality, which is dangerous for safety and freedom of people who come to Canada to experience both these things.
And, finally (I know, right?) this is a response to Tim’s Christian polisci 101 comment: Timothy McVeigh was quoted as saying that science was his religion. Now, I was only 5 at the time, but I can safely say that scientists was not discriminated against. He was also a member of the NRA. People kill people with guns all the time, many of them members of the NRA, but its a constitutional right to have a gun (just like freedom of religion). If the American government tried to step in more to prevent such things, cries of socialism would ring loud and clear. But shouldn’t they assume the worst?
November 7, 2009
Hasan, a Major was heard shouting: “Allah Akbar” or ‘God is Great’, as he calmly and systematically, reloading several times, killing unarmed service men and women at Fort Hood, Texas. The incident was planned by Hasan, as the number of clips needed for that impact is large. Whether this man just snapped, was psychologically unbalanced or is apart of a group of radicals is still not known. This man was born and raised in the U.S. and was apart of the military for some years in positions of trust. Mark Lepean, a corporal in Canada’s infantry killed innocents as well and was a Catholic. Should we draw conclusions here and assume that Catholics or Christians are attempting to take over the world? I awaiting info from U.S. Armed Services and will know more shortly. That does not mean I will be able to share that info.
November 8, 2009
I was reading, (forget where) that, if this man did just snap, then why is it he snapped using the same methods of other Jihadists. His actions were clearly that of his perverted views of martyrdom and not of one who was under so much stress that he just cracked. Steve, of what religion are the terrorists who are killing innocent people who are not involved in their conflicts? I too do not believe that all Muslims are terrorists but I have to question, are all terrorists Muslim?
Do a search on a woman named Brigitte Gabriel. She was born in Lebanon and her family were Christians. Lebanon at that time was a Christian nation. She has many videos explaining what happened to that beautiful and peaceful nation and we are only talking about a transformation which occurred in the last 30 or so years. Most of what she says I can remember little bits from the news but had largely forgotten the truth about the whole mess. Steve, please check out Brigitte Gabriel as it will give you a better picture of what is going on, http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/profile.asp .
Also Steve, one of the best books I’ve read in the last twenty to thirty years was written by Tim Bloedow, called State VS Church, here is the link to purchase the book. http://www.christiangovernment.ca/book_buy.php Please get it as you seem like an honest Christian searching for peace. Most of us on this site know the bible says “Blessed are the peace makers for they shall inherit the earth.” Tim’s book reveals the errors of our humanistic leaning government and the dangers of not recognizing those things which are anti Christian and are effectively taking away the rights you seem to think we still have. You are in error when you say Christians have freedom in this country. Did you know about Steven Boissoin (he responded to you earlier in this post) and his fight with the Alberta Human Rights because he wrote a letter to the editor regarding gay marriage? Steve we only have freedom of religion in this country if we are Muslim or subscribe to the secular humanist religion, other than that, this country seeks freedom from religion and that specifically targets you.
November 8, 2009
Steve, I meant to mention in my previous post that your scripture verses also work for those advocating a separation from the Muslims.
“…. Make no treaty with them, and show no mercy.” (Deuteronomy 7:2) When I read this part of the verse you used I immediately thought this one was against what you were trying to say. What about King David and all his wives, who were not from the tribes of Israel, and then his son Solomon who must have thought it was OK for dad so I will also take wives from other peoples? Both men suffered tremendously because of the pollution of their ways and beliefs, because their passion (or whatever) caused them to go against God’s word and allowed pagan religions into their homes and families (marrying a non believer is making a treaty with the non believer’s beliefs). The bible says to come out from among the world and be separate. Your views and defense of Islam is just the same as a humanistic friend of mine who attacks me each time I try to show her how the religion is inherently violent. She absolutely refuses to look at the truth and when backed into a corner says stupid stuff like “truth is relative.” Humanists seem to enjoy a freedom the rest of us don’t have; the freedom of honest thought and word. They are like that because God is not in them or with them.
John 1:1-5 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him and without Him was not anyhing made which was made. In Him was life and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.” They don’t comprehend because they choose darkness and cannot see; you on the other hand Steve can, with God’s help, see clearly.
November 8, 2009
Woops, I meant to say “freedom FROM honest thought and word,” regarding the freedoms of humanists.